The other day I was browsing some of my friend’s blogs and came across a post by Doug Brock (an Automation engineer), titled “Why don’t more young engineers pursue Automation and Control Engineering careers?” There is also a LinkedIn discussion on the same topic as well. I’m 27, an automation & Control engineer myself, work for a large automation company, and have discussed this very issue with many of my friends. So it was only natural to write this article.
Before I start bashing the automation industry, let me say that there are actually a lot of good aspects to my job as a field service engineer (which are the reasons I haven’t left the industry yet). There are of course many other positions in automation industry than just FSEs.
Now back to topic; we, the young engineers don’t enter the automation industry or if we do, we don’t stay long because of
Notes
I’m 27 and work at Rockwell Automation. My job title is “Field Service Engineer (FSE)” and I get paid a little under $65,000/year (plus a company car and benefits). I graduated from Purdue University with an Electrical Engineering degree and joined Rockwell right after college. Keep in mind no one in United States talks about their salary so unless you go to Glass Door or a similar website its hard to know how much salary you should expect or ask for.
Most engineering schools’ curriculum don’t include any course related to automation. At least none that are required or recommended. We learn almost everything we know on the job. Granted, most engineering jobs are like that; I feel automation industry just has a larger learning curve associated with it than most other engineering jobs. There are a ton of different PLCs brands each with their own programming language used in drives, motion, and process applications not to mention all the historian and tracking software associate with each one. All these technologies are advancing at an extremely fast rate and we have to stay on top of it at all times.
A great comment from Will Wagner on the LinkedIn discussion:
Control engineers are not produced by academic programs, they are developed.
Companies typically don’t hire young engineers that don’t know much PLC programming or HMI development, yet very rarely any of them offer any form of serious training. Even if they do hire young engineers they’ll low ball the salaries. Many of my friends who got hired at large automation companies or at a small integrator ended up being sent to job sites by themselves only few days after being hired with the notion of “We believe in you, go figure it out”. Most of my friends either left those companies within few months of being hired and some of them got let go because they couldn’t complete a job at a customer site.
Rockwell is the only company that I know of that offers a good training program to its new hires called Engineering in Training program. To become an Field Service Engineer (FSE) at Rockwell I had to go through the program which is an intense 6 month of – paid - training. That is unheard of in our industry. It is also the main reason the attendees (including myself) join Rockwell right after college. More companies need to do the same if they want young engineers join them.
Salary levels in Automation industry are at or below of other engineering jobs available to young engineers. When a prospective young college graduate is looking at a job offer in automation industry this is how he/she views it:
You see where this is going?
When I graduated I had an offer from Rockwell for $64,400, an offer of $69,000 from Accenture, and an offer of $74,000 from a defense company. I did choose Rockwell because Rockwell is the industry leader in North America and they gave me 6 months of paid training. That’s like going to college every day but getting paid instead of paying tuition.
Other companies should also offer better training programs OR be prepared to pay higher than average salaries to attract young engineers.
Even though Rockwell does a good job of attracting young college graduates to their program, I believe they do a poor job of keeping them by not doing anything afterwards.
Automation industry is extremely technical and it takes a long time to be a well rounded automation engineer. This fact makes the actual engineers hard to replace and there is large resistance to those who want to move up in the company.
It takes at least 3 to 5 years for a field service engineer to be trained well and able to handle most projects. If the engineer chooses to stay as an experienced field service engineer he/she is looking at 1% to 6% raise every year. On the other hand the engineer can simply switch to another industry and expect a much higher salary.
Doug Brock has done a great job of putting together a number of interesting salary charts for engineering professions.
For example: I find it troubling that the customers whom I service pay over $210/hr for me to be there and I get paid less than $34/hr ($50 including benefits) of that.
Another Example: It’s also sad how companies complain about not being able to retain their young employees and the best solution they come up with is a 3rd year reunion party (pun intended).
Another Example: Almost every one of my friends have had much higher offers (+$20k to +35k to what they make now) from other industries. The question companies should ask themselves is why should these engineer stay at their job and not take the other offer? Specially in today’s world that companies let their oldest and most experienced employees go simply because the company didn’t meet a particular quarter’s stock expectations.
That being said, money is not everything. Actually I believe low salaries is not the main reason most young engineers leave the industry. However as long as companies refuse to fix their problems in other areas, higher than average salaries remain as their only tool to keep those employees.
Automation industry is one of the oldest technical industries around; with that comes a lot of outdated policies (from decades ago), cultures that are extremely resistant to change, and upper management that is two generations behind technology.
We, the employees, are expected to simply get certain tasks done, behave in certain approved ways, leave our character and cultures at home, “just shut up” (a phrase my former manager used to remind me often) – instead of speaking up, and adapt to old cultures and outdated policies. That used to work for both employees and employers a decade ago – not anymore. Listen to the book Linchpin by Seth Godin for more on this topic.
Talking to corporations:
One of the most important reasons that we, the young engineers, leave your corporation is the your lack of desire to change with today’s technological and cultural advancements. Instead of monitoring and blocking employees from going to social media, you should encourage them to spend half an hour of every day’s work hours to talk about their experience at work on social media. Stop being afraid of openness. You’ll be amazed at the amount of positive feedback you’ll receive.
You used to be able to hire engineers to just sit in a cube, program all day, stay long hours and weekends, and then go home just to do the same routine the next day (much like the robots we program). That era is over. The sooner you realize that, the sooner you’ll jump ahead of the industry.
It is unacceptable that,
If you are serious about wanting wanting to change and to address your employees concerns ASK them to submit those suggestions 100% anonymously. Ask them to write a blog post, Facebook or Twitter message and be serious about it. Those employees who speak out are those who care the most about the company. Give them room to talk. Here is a another good post by Seth Godin.
Is that too much? Then Simply go to GlassDoor and read employees comments. I have no doubt you already monitor the web and social media for coverage about your brand. Use it for a reason other than finding and forcing outspoken employees to sign legal papers.
You, the leaders of the automation industry, can take one of two actions:
It used to be that engineers were associated with being un-social, obedient, and the kind of employees that accepted status quo regardless of what it was. We’ve changed and believe or not we have plenty of options to choose from.
Be The Google of The Automation Industry.
Arash Soheili
September 26, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Very nice article. Although I’m not an engineer I was trained in Chemistry and could almost write the same article for the pharmaceutical industry. I think many big companies in the US are in this old path and not adapting to the new changing pace of technology and culture.
Anonymous
September 26, 2011 at 8:34 pm
Brave article. Takes some major guts to write the truth out there where even you boss can see it
Another Automation Engineer
October 11, 2011 at 10:48 am
I identified myself with this article, but it is a little harder situation in México. I am an automation engineer graduated from one of the best colleges down here, I have experience using a lot of different PLCs, HMIs, SCADA, DCS, etc. I have being in a lot of different industries like oil and gas, mining, electronics manufacturing, food and beverage, automotive, etc. I travel 75% of my time. We are not very good seen by foreign companies (like for applying for some position out of here) and I can tell you that you still earn about 4 times what I do…
Nima Heydarian
October 11, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Thanks for the comment.
That’s unfortunate and sad that foreign companies don’t consider Mexican engineers as capable. I myself know at least two Mexican engineer from Mexico with great capabilities.
I’m also in no way saying that my salary per-say is low. I was merely comparing that salary to other options available to young engineers in America towards the point of the article on why young engineers are leaving automation industry here.
I am personally firmly against the discrimination of employees across the world and huge gaps that exist between the wealth in rich countries and the not so rich ones which is a whole other subject. I hope I didn’t give a different impression by this article. (check out my personal blog NimaHeydarian.com)